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		<title>By: rateske</title>
		<link>http://edtechlife.com/?p=2716&#038;cpage=1#comment-754454</link>
		<dc:creator>rateske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 18:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not a doctoral program but Grand Valley State University in Grand Rapids, MI has a masters program in ed. tech.  Not only are they hybrid, but they have now begun complete online courses.  I find this to be even better than hybrid since I&#039;m an international teacher in Europe and know of other educators that must keep certificates up to date.  I&#039;ve also heard that GVSU will hire with a completed masters degree.  I don&#039;t know all the information regarding hiring since I&#039;ve never applied, but when I inquired about teaching online classes for education I was told I only needed to have my masters (not a doctorate).
Amy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a doctoral program but Grand Valley State University in Grand Rapids, MI has a masters program in ed. tech.  Not only are they hybrid, but they have now begun complete online courses.  I find this to be even better than hybrid since I&#8217;m an international teacher in Europe and know of other educators that must keep certificates up to date.  I&#8217;ve also heard that GVSU will hire with a completed masters degree.  I don&#8217;t know all the information regarding hiring since I&#8217;ve never applied, but when I inquired about teaching online classes for education I was told I only needed to have my masters (not a doctorate).<br />
Amy</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Wagner, Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Wagner, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The challenge almost makes me want to apply for a university job. ;)

In any case, I understand your point. Still, I don&#039;t think the &quot;traditional&quot; universities will be the cradle of big changes in education... at least that&#039;s (obviously) not where I&#039;ve decided to apply my efforts. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The challenge almost makes me want to apply for a university job. ;)</p>
<p>In any case, I understand your point. Still, I don&#8217;t think the &#8220;traditional&#8221; universities will be the cradle of big changes in education&#8230; at least that&#8217;s (obviously) not where I&#8217;ve decided to apply my efforts. </p>
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		<title>By: Jon Margerum-Leys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Margerum-Leys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s just it.  The universities that (in my opinion) would be the best match for a forward looking educational technologist would be among those not willing to accept a degree from Walden.  A doctorate, in order to pass muster at the highest quality institutions, needs to include a component of understanding the social and professional aspects of working in an academic setting.  Universities that would be a less good match for a forward looking educational technologist might be more willing to accept a degree from Walden.

Eastern Michigan hires people with all sorts of degrees and does look at much more than where the degree was conferred. That said, the current market attracts _lots_ of applicants for each position.  There has to be a way to quickly make the first cut.  Often, which institution conferred the degree becomes part of that first cut.

Jon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s just it.  The universities that (in my opinion) would be the best match for a forward looking educational technologist would be among those not willing to accept a degree from Walden.  A doctorate, in order to pass muster at the highest quality institutions, needs to include a component of understanding the social and professional aspects of working in an academic setting.  Universities that would be a less good match for a forward looking educational technologist might be more willing to accept a degree from Walden.</p>
<p>Eastern Michigan hires people with all sorts of degrees and does look at much more than where the degree was conferred. That said, the current market attracts _lots_ of applicants for each position.  There has to be a way to quickly make the first cut.  Often, which institution conferred the degree becomes part of that first cut.</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Wagner, Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://edtechlife.com/?p=2716&#038;cpage=1#comment-721268</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Wagner, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jon Perhaps those universities might not be the best match for a forward looking educational technologist anyway. ;)

Of course, I can&#039;t speak to Eastern Michigan University. Hopefully they were open minded enough to hire you based on something other than just the institution that conferred your degree. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jon Perhaps those universities might not be the best match for a forward looking educational technologist anyway. ;)</p>
<p>Of course, I can&#8217;t speak to Eastern Michigan University. Hopefully they were open minded enough to hire you based on something other than just the institution that conferred your degree. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Margerum-Leys</title>
		<link>http://edtechlife.com/?p=2716&#038;cpage=1#comment-703485</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Margerum-Leys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Be very careful about which doctoral program you choose, especially if you want to be a faculty member yourself.  No disrespect to the Walden program, which has many fine features, but it won&#039;t help you to get a faculty position at most universities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be very careful about which doctoral program you choose, especially if you want to be a faculty member yourself.  No disrespect to the Walden program, which has many fine features, but it won&#8217;t help you to get a faculty position at most universities.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lee</title>
		<link>http://edtechlife.com/?p=2716&#038;cpage=1#comment-620931</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am wrapping up a Master&#039;s in Ed Tech at CSUN.  The education business is so chaotic right now. Layoffs, furlough days and serious budget cuts make me wonder if the time and money spent for a doctorate has any value beyond just being the best educated person at family functions.  My B.S. is in the IT field, and that business is in no better shape than the education business. These are tough times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wrapping up a Master&#8217;s in Ed Tech at CSUN.  The education business is so chaotic right now. Layoffs, furlough days and serious budget cuts make me wonder if the time and money spent for a doctorate has any value beyond just being the best educated person at family functions.  My B.S. is in the IT field, and that business is in no better shape than the education business. These are tough times.</p>
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		<title>By: MMG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The trouble with doctorates in any technological field is that the field is always changing. In the time that it takes to get a doctorate, the world will become very different. However, what ismost important at all is grasping principles. If you grasp principles of science, technology, and how it works and progresses, you will be better cut out for a career in the field then some hot shot younger generational wiz kid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble with doctorates in any technological field is that the field is always changing. In the time that it takes to get a doctorate, the world will become very different. However, what ismost important at all is grasping principles. If you grasp principles of science, technology, and how it works and progresses, you will be better cut out for a career in the field then some hot shot younger generational wiz kid.</p>
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		<title>By: mrsdurff</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As another Walden doctoral student specializing in educational technology, I can only agree!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As another Walden doctoral student specializing in educational technology, I can only agree!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Wagner, Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://edtechlife.com/?p=2716&#038;cpage=1#comment-615688</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Wagner, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the contribution, Wendy. I hear a lot of good things about the Pepperdine programs. 

In any case, it took quite a while to hone in on my topic actually. I spent most of the first year exploring &quot;constructivist learning environments&quot; (and organizational change) and in the second year I thought &quot;video games and learning&quot; would be a great new frontier. Of course, much had already been written - and I did two years of research as I slowly focused on my topic of &quot;MMORPGs in K-12 Education&quot; and then later my actual delphi study about potential applications and issues.  Even then it took another year... it was five total for me, but well worth it all along the way - and the degree was opening doors from the day I started. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the contribution, Wendy. I hear a lot of good things about the Pepperdine programs. </p>
<p>In any case, it took quite a while to hone in on my topic actually. I spent most of the first year exploring &#8220;constructivist learning environments&#8221; (and organizational change) and in the second year I thought &#8220;video games and learning&#8221; would be a great new frontier. Of course, much had already been written &#8211; and I did two years of research as I slowly focused on my topic of &#8220;MMORPGs in K-12 Education&#8221; and then later my actual delphi study about potential applications and issues.  Even then it took another year&#8230; it was five total for me, but well worth it all along the way &#8211; and the degree was opening doors from the day I started. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Gorton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Gorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great advice, Mark, especially for someone sniffing down the doctoral trail! I loved my master&#039;s program at Pepperdine in EdTech because it was hybrid like Walden&#039;s-- we met for a week and made some incredible bonds and connections that made all of our online discussions and projects so rich and our final meet and exhibition amazing. It was one of the first college experiences where professors eschewed traditional lecture models and let us do all the discovering and collaborating and talking, and it framed the way I eventually taught my kids.

 Did you find your topic getting honed down pretty quickly after a year or so?

Thanks for sharing!

-Wendy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice, Mark, especially for someone sniffing down the doctoral trail! I loved my master&#8217;s program at Pepperdine in EdTech because it was hybrid like Walden&#8217;s&#8211; we met for a week and made some incredible bonds and connections that made all of our online discussions and projects so rich and our final meet and exhibition amazing. It was one of the first college experiences where professors eschewed traditional lecture models and let us do all the discovering and collaborating and talking, and it framed the way I eventually taught my kids.</p>
<p> Did you find your topic getting honed down pretty quickly after a year or so?</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing!</p>
<p>-Wendy</p>
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